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Hey mate, not sure what you mean by that? Centre of hub to guard measurements for suspension height is the standard practice for measuring your before and after heights.

@@FulcrumSuspensions1976 it's not accurate, I can see you guys just holding the take measure roughly in the centre of the wheel. By using the most bottom point of the rim it is very repeatable and way more accurate. Shouldn't have to explain this to a suspension company but there you go

@@user-tw2fg1zf8v We measure from the centre of the wheel (CWG) because it provides consistent and reliable data, regardless of location. This method ensures that measurements taken by customers in different parts of the world, such as Thailand, Alice Springs, or California, align with our records. While measuring to the bottom of the rim is acceptable for specific jobs, it is not a universally applicable method. Different wheel types-whether steel, alloy, 17 or 18-inch, or those with bead locks-affect the radius, leading to inconsistent results. In contrast, using the centre of the wheel as a reference point remains consistent, regardless of the wheel type. It’s important to note that a certain level of expertise is required to achieve accurate measurements. We've used this method with a tolerance of 2.5mm for over 50 years now along with many car manufacturers also doing the same method of measuring.

@@FulcrumSuspensions1976 nope it's not accurate , no one can consistently find the centre of a wheel

We typically recommend a diff drop for 3 inch lifts on the Hilux models.

@@FulcrumSuspensions1976 if lifts 2 inch?

@@Zwyn-d6k You can get a diff drop to be safe, or wait and see what the CV angle looks like after the 2 inch lift. Unfortunately everyones vehicle sits slightly different after a lift and so the angles of the CV's can be better or worse for some.

We unfortunately don't have any UCA's that suit LOWERING the Amarok by 3 inches and haven't tested the factory UCA for that as it's not a typical thing to see or be done.

It shouldn't do but it is best to check with the dealer first. In terms of the parts you change out to fit this kit (Springs, Shocks etc) the warranty on those is then covered by us.

I agree with you mate Unfortunately, they just want to sell their products. I also wrote a comment about Kai's video but they deleted it

Hi Andrew, In our experience, most vehicles require some form of caster correction after a 40-50mm lift. While some people manage without the aftermarket Upper Control Arms (UCAs), every vehicle has slightly different geometry specifications due to manufacturing tolerances. For example, one person with a 2015 Hilux might not achieve the same specs as another person with the same model and year. For Prado 150s specifically, we highly recommend new UCAs after a 40-50mm lift. This recommendation is partly for caster correction but mainly to address a clearance issue between the UCAs and the springs when using the factory UCAs after a lift.

Noob question... havent had a suspension lift yet, but i did change out my stock 31s with 33s. Would it be necessary for a uca upgrade?

@@Ben1010Ten Fair question, for this case a UCA will generally not be needed as the vehicles alignment adjustment range at standard height is generally enough and because the aftermarket UCA's have inbuilt correction for a set lift height. However with a lot of IFS vehicles at 33's there is usually some scrubbing in the body mounts near the wheel arch or on the wheel arch itself. An alignment shop can sometimes set the alignment in a way that stops or minimizes this scrubbing though.

Appreciate all of the knowledge and thanks for your response. Ive sorted out the rubbing issue by using some hub centric spacers to push out the tires. I did get a set of aftermarket UCAs in advance in preparation for my shocks to arrive. I was wondering if there would be any positive or negative effects/benifits if i threw on the UCAs prior to the lift as it may take longer than initially anticipated? Thanks heaps!

@@Ben1010Ten You'll probably find with the aftermarket UCA's on before you fit the new shocks that it'll cause alignment issues as it'll push your caster too far and give you too much camber. My recommendation is to hold off on installing the new UCA till you get the new shocks.

Open diff for this one 👌

Based in Australia, we have many stores across Australia and an online store where we can ship to anyone in Australia as well. We do have an export team as well for those in other countries.

At this stage we don't have these available for the 48v Hilux Rogues.

Hi Cody, what question are you looking to have answered?

We have the kit available now here - fulcrumsuspensions.com.au/2-inch-50mm-formula-4x4-coil-spring-lift-kit-to-suit-toyota-landcruiser-gr-sport-2021-on-9972-crus-303c.html